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Supergod 4 years 7 months ago #30750

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Reading Club for Calendar week 11 (March 11-24, 2013)
Book:Supergod
Host:600WPMPO
Publisher:Avatar Press
Creators:Warren Ellis (Author),Garrie Gastonny (Illustrator)
Genre:Superhero - Deconstruction
No of Issues:5
Age Rating:Mature
ISBN:978-1592910991
Where to purchase a physical copy?:Amazon
Read by:March 24, 2013
Host Rating:4/5
Community Rating:4/5
Published:2009
Host Review:...coming soon
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Book Description:
Praying to be saved by a man who can fly will get you killed! From the mind of Warren Ellis, the creator of TRANSMETROPOLITAN and PLANETARY, comes the most horrifying superhero graphic novel you will ever read! What if the arms race of global superpowers did not yield nuclear stockpiles, but rather messianic beings capable of wondrous miracles and – when needed – the ability to unleash the wrath of gods? But the scientists, generals, and politicians built super-humans to save the planet, no one ever imagined how their heroes would do it – or even if they’d want to. Behold the apocalyptic tomorrow, when supermen kill us all and end the world just because we wanted to be rescued by human-shaped things from beyond Science itself!

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“Supergod” acts as the third book in a loose, thematic trilogy of comics about post-humanity done by Ellis for Avatar, following up on “Black Summer” and “No Hero.” It stands as the most thought-provoking and challenging of the three books, concerned with tackling an almost impossible idea: how does something not human think and act? Ellis succeeds in laying out some theories and providing a hint of where to go for future writers. “Supergod” may not work completely as a story, but as an argument, a theory for post-human stories, it’s a brilliant piece of work. This conclusion is depressing and challenging and frustrating and disturbing. It’s the sort of comic that sticks with you and changes the way you think about superhero comics.

Warren Ellis on SUPERGOD:

A superhuman is an alien life form. By definition. More than human means not human, not human anymore, not like us, something else. Our reaction to a superhuman in close proximity would be like our reaction to a spider: something so alien that it triggers a gut revulsion we have to train ourselves out of. Or, perhaps, our reaction to a serious schizophrenic. Schizophrenics smell different. They think different. You can see it in their eyes. They are Not Like You.

I remember the novelist Lisa Tuttle once saying on a TV show, “Every angel is terrifying.” Too perfect. Too alien. They don’t think like us.

Black Summer was about superhumans who were too human. No Hero was about superhumans who were inhuman. Supergod is about superhumans who are no longer human at all, but something else. The third leg of a thematic trilogy if you like.

Supergod is the story of what an actual superhuman arms race might be like. It’s a simple thing to imagine. Humans have been fashioning their own gods with their own hands since the dawn of our time on Earth. We can’t help ourselves. Fertility figures brazen idols, vast chalk etchings, carvings, myths and legends, science fiction writers generating science fiction religions from whole cloth. It’s not such a great leapt to conceive of the builders of nuclear weapons and particle accelerators turning their attention to the oldest of human pursuits. Dress it up as superhuman defense, as discovering the limits of the human body, as transhumanism and posthumanism. Stewart Brand once paraphrased Edward Leach: “We are as gods and might as well get good at it.” And, perhaps, there’s still that little scratchy voice in the middle of the night: I don’t want to be alone. I want there to be something bigger, something that moves in mysterious ways and wants only the best for us. And I will forgive it, the disgusting state of this world, and all the things in it that want to crush and kill me, and have faith that something incredible and invisible and unknowable will make things better. And so (in Supergod), just to make sure, I will build it and keep it by me. I will pretend it’s a weapon, a defensive capability, a computing object or a construction machine — but really it is a Messiah.

But the Messiah, remember, is a very naughty boy.

The thing about building weapons is that there are always accidents. In Supergod, one of these creatures gets loose. And what it does is completely unpredictable, pretty much insane to a human perspective — because it’s not human. Even if it’s programmed to rescue you, it will not perform that task in a way you understand. These dreams of flying men who will save us from the corrupt and deadly world we live in — those are our dreams. We project human desires upon them. If they were real, they wouldn’t think like that.

And that’s why Supergod opens on a government scientist called Reddin, in a state of almost Lovecraftian mental imbalance, sitting on the Embankment of the Thames while London burns in the background, and thousands of corpses float down the river. London got off easy. You should see Mumbai.

Warren Ellis
Burning England
July 2009
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Re: Supergod 4 years 7 months ago #30751

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I've enjoyed Ellis' work on some of the Ultimate Marvel stuff, as well as some older 2099 books, so it will be interesting to read this. Thanks for the suggestion!
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kenjio wrote:
I've enjoyed Ellis' work on some of the Ultimate Marvel stuff, as well as some older 2099 books, so it will be interesting to read this. Thanks for the suggestion!
This is a text-heavy, narrative-driven book. But, the ideas & executions are quite nice. I hope you like it. :)
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First issue down, and I'm hooked.

The artwork is really nice, and the dialogue is engaging. I must admit, the swearing/blue talk seemed a little forced at times (and trust me, I'm no prude), but aside from that, the premise is intriguing and I'm looking forward to seeing where they'll take it.
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Re: Supergod 4 years 7 months ago #30766

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I'll just say that two previous books of the "trilogy" (Black Summer & No Hero) were much better
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Re: Supergod 4 years 7 months ago #30802

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Read Issues 1 & 2 last night, very gripping, looks like a prequel to The Boys apart from Ellis didnt write that!
A good example of "A Little Knowledge is Dangerous" or even "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility"
OR NOT as in this book!
Ellis's work is, as always gritty and pulls no punches in showing the stupidity and greed of man, no glossy Star Trek universe for him! This is probably the way it will be, with money and power behind the wheel, with logic only stepping in, in desperation at deaths door.

Looking forward to 3 & 4 tonight.
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Re: Supergod 4 years 7 months ago #30805

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I just read the first issue so far an it's a nice change of pace from the normal way comics are done. With the narrator doing all the talking it reads more like a short story or a novella with lots pictures then the average comic. The art is beautiful too.

Oh and its been a while since I actually learned two brand new words in just one issue of a comic (mycological and Fimbulwinter), so kudos to Mr. Ellis on that.
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Re: Supergod 4 years 7 months ago #30891

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Finished it last week, great, one of those beasties looked like Cthulhu!
The main character reminded me a lot of Dr Manhattan (and not just because he was blue!)
Kinda liked the downbeat ending... that why I prefer the more adult comics, more believable.
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I'm sometimes surprises me when I see only a few of us comment on a comic when I see 150-350 people online.

I'd still like to keep these topics going even so.

And , yes, he was kinda like Dr. Manhattan without the Silk Spectre influence, I never really thought of that.
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I'm re-reading this, & here are my reviews for the first 3 issues:

**Supergod #1 review**

Expository. That's the first thought that comes into mind. But, then as the pages are turned one by one, the readers settles down & witnesses the origins of the various Supergods around the world. While the premise is interesting, we know where they are leading us. Ultimately the Gods will turn against the humans & destroy the world. Or will it be something else? We'll see. For now, I give it a hopeful 3.5/5. The next issue better be good, or the ratings are sure to fall.

**Supergod #2 review**

The second book forwards the story in that the Supergods are slowly being pitted against each other. Whether they'll kill or join their counterparts, remains to be seen. The art is pretty good. But it is still not clear where the narrative is taking us.
Another hopeful 3.5/5 for this issue.

**Supergod #3 review**
This issue was really interesting. All the pieces are now well set up, & the tension is really building. The idea of a fungal god is highly imaginative. While the earlier 2 issues took themselves very seriously, this one had a few moments of genuine hilariousity. And the art continues to be decent.
The best issue so far; this gets a 4/5.
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